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    Quote Originally Posted by stubill View Post
    Just waiting for the token "muslim scholar" to condemn the attack, while the rest of the muslim population remain silent. Scum, all of them.
    Perhaps some of the pro-Islam people on here can let us know what the so called moderate Islamic people are doing about the problem .
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    I'll make a few assumptions.
    1. He'll be known to the authorities
    2. His family wouldn't have had a clue (they're all good)
    3. His local mosque wouldn't have had a clue (they're all good)
    4. Some White people will say 'It's all the fault of the White man'
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    As i said, they knew exactly who he was. 7 arrested overnight in Birmingham and London.
    Now ive been thinking about this and now is surly the time to take every single persons finger prints in this country regardless of colour or creed. In doing this anybody taken out like that piece of ?**? yesterday, they could just leave them to die in agony and take their finger prints when everyone else has been treated. Now i was against having prints taken but now ive changed my mind if you havent done anything wrong why not give them, and that way anyone coming into this country can be checked and if they are an undesirable ****** off out of it as they do in the good old USofA
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    I heard a security expert on the news yesterday saying that there are 3,000 known extremists in the country, right now. Quite understandably the authorities can't keep track of them all.
    I do wonder if the time is fast approaching when the West will have to consider internment.
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    Even if they were tracked, look at the nature of the attack; not going to takes months of planning and communication is it?!

    By the sounds of the majority of accounts the police acted quickly and effectively, which no doubt saved more lives from being lost.

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    Unfortunately anyone can get a car and drive it into a crowd.
    Glad he was dispatched quickly ,one less terrorist to worry about.

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    Fantastic work by the emergency services and the British public who went immediately towards the injured and needy in an unknown situation. Thankfully he was dispatched in under 90 seconds by security services. Thoughts are with the affected in this despicable cowardly attack on us and our guests.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardbelly View Post
    I do wonder if the time is fast approaching when the West will have to consider internment.
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    Well, obviously, then move on to all those with British/Afro Caribbean heritage, anyone who's been to Saudi Arabia (Boris Johnson been to Saudi ), anyone who drives a Hyundai..etc.

    And what about Lardbelly?
    He comes from Swindon, there are Mosques in Swindon and I bet he likes a Kebab, Kebabs come from the middle east, so they are Muslamic, it all adds up, lock him up he may have been radicalised.
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    Is that a nervous "laugh" Lee??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat View Post
    Is that a nervous "laugh" Lee??
    Too right Nat, I had my haircut in a new barbers shop that opened near me recently, turns out "Ali Barbers" is a Turkish barbers shop, I think a lot of Turkish people are Muslims.
    I'm pretty sure I wasn't radicalised but it was a close shave.

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    Huge respect for the Police, Emergency service staff, the MP who tried to save PC Keith Palmer and members of the public who went to the aid of the victims caught up in the attack.
    Good people by far outweigh those who have nothing but hate in their warped minds. Which is why they will never win.
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    They do win...as they do their objective and kill innocent people.thats their aim..and they achieve it.

    All we can do is try and limit the amount of people that gets killed. And although it only lasted 82 seconds....still plenty of time to cause maximum damage to some inocent people and destroy a familys life.
    This may well not be the last of this sort of attack though..as how the bloody hell can you prepare for a random nutter to run peope over ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeames View Post
    They do win...as they do their objective and kill innocent people.thats their aim..and they achieve it.
    Terrorism is by definition a barbaric act to achieve political goals. They won't achieve their political goals so you're wrong, they won't and dont win.

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    Totally agree with Munich regarding the Political Goals, but by the same token, they did manage to close a Parliament Session and injured and killed people, without really having a political agenda.

    The Agenda is hate against the Western way of life whilst they walk amongst us and make full use of Western trappings when it suits them.

    The Security services can't legislate against these sorts of attacks and reacted very quickly, and while I think the Police etc showed a great response, I think a lot of that was down to the location of the attack, i.e it was carried out in an area with a massive security services presence.

    Unfortunately, the tiny majority of Islamic zealots DO reside within the general populous and within the Muslim Community. I totally understand that it's very few Muslims and not reflective of the majority, yet the majority still go to their Mosques, still listen to (the few) hate preachers, still live within the communities where people are getting radicalised, yet keep quiet about such actions until there is some form of atrocity and then come out bleating that it's not all of them and they really follow a peace loving religion.

    How about outing the preachers and converts BEFORE they perpetuate such actions instead of hiding it and then protesting loudly that "it was them not us" after the event.

    To me, that is why there is no trust, that is how hatred gets bred, and that's why integration will never work and a social divide is created.

    What makes it worse, is the leftie brigade making excuses for it due to the fact the West meddled in their Countries to start with and what we're seeing now is the result of that meddling. To me, that's a load of BS.

    Want to live in a Western, Christian based Country, no problem..........adopt the lifestyle you've chosen and enjoy what comes with it..........DON'T build Mosques, Don't dress in Burkas, embrace the society you've chosen to be part of or stay in the society you want to be part of.............Trying to blend the benefits of modern western world living with some of the Muslim communities warped views of Islam is never going to work.

    I'm sick and tired of people in this Country being apologists for history. Yes we had an Empire, we were involved in the slave trade, we went to war and stole other peoples lands.......so did the Roman Empire..........every Nation and every race has a history.......but why is it only the Brits that seem to get held to account for historic events and some of our own Countrymen seem fixated on making apologies on behalf of their forefathers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tackletart, The Original View Post
    I'm sick and tired of people in this Country being apologists for history. Yes we had an Empire, we were involved in the slave trade, we went to war and stole other peoples lands.......so did the Roman Empire..........every Nation and every race has a history.......but why is it only the Brits that seem to get held to account for historic events and some of our own Countrymen seem fixated on making apologies on behalf of their forefathers.

    We are living in different times.
    Germany have it far worse off regarding being held to account. You're not even allowed to question it.

    Proper cultural enrichment going on over there...

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    Fair enough TT that's your opinion. They do have politico-religious goals though, some kind of Sunni /Wahhabism Islamic State. That's currently being eradicated mainly by other Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munich2012 View Post
    Terrorism is by definition a barbaric act to achieve political goals. They won't achieve their political goals so you're wrong, they won't and dont win.
    This wasn't a political attack though was it.this was a lone maniac.a known troublemaker,extremist who was a member of IS.
    Not a political attack

    Even IS have said he was a member of theirs....they didn't claim either it was a political attack.this is on the news now.

    So basically a nutter known to the police for allsorts...but unfortunately not able to know what he was going to do
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    What are you babbling on about mate? I think you're confused, look up the word "terrorism " Or are you saying it wasn't an act of terrorism?

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    Bomb and invade other countries, kill hundreds of thousands of civilians,steal assets,install puppet regimes,take control of the financial system, displace hundreds of thousands of more civilians and you don't think that's a strong incentive for radicalisation against the West? Unreal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Fisher View Post
    Well, obviously, then move on to all those with British/Afro Caribbean heritage, anyone who's been to Saudi Arabia (Boris Johnson been to Saudi ), anyone who drives a Hyundai..etc.

    And what about Lardbelly?
    He comes from Swindon, there are Mosques in Swindon and I bet he likes a Kebab, Kebabs come from the middle east, so they are Muslamic, it all adds up, lock him up he may have been radicalised.
    I am referring to the known extremists but you knew that
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    Terrorist or nutter.

    Both amount to same thing really. We whole forum probably see things differently but ultimately the same Views on these atrocities and the people that commit them.

    That's the best i can put it.
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