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joey_h
06-06-2005, 18:53
Im hoping that someone will kindly take the time to point me in the right direction! im currently fishing a hard syndicate as im now stepping up my carp fishing. I want to begin a proper baiting campaing, but because im only a young angler (16) im on a small budget. Im fishing with multiblend pellets and lt94 boilies from Vision baits and have just started baiting two days a week in 3 different spots postioned around the lake. Im aiming to get through 10kg of pellets and 5kgs of boilies each month. Is this enough and is my approach correct?? my aim is to create a regular feeding spot where carp will know they can find bait.

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JamesMackenzie
06-06-2005, 19:08
Good idea to bait various spots, but only really works if the spots are not constantly fished by other anglers, therefore try and bait spots where the carp are definitely visiting but receive no or little attention from others. Personally i would try my hardest to find a fish and use very little bait to try and catch it - just a single hookbait, or maybe just a handful of pellet around the hookbait. Dont throw in loads of bait if it really isnt necessary.

joey_h
06-06-2005, 19:19
so 15kg of bait a month isnt overdoing or underdoing then? ive spoke to anglers before who have baited with 10kg+ of bait per week! also, is it wise to incorporate other baits such as maize or wheat into my baiting, so i leave lots of options to what hookbaits i use?

thanks for the reply, im new to this so not sure how things happen on this forum!

Onions
06-06-2005, 19:27
I AM ALSO A YOUNG ANGLER (16) ON A BUDGET SO WHEN BAITING UP AS AM NOW AND HAVE BEEN FOR A FEW MONTHS FOR JUNE 16TH I HAVE BEEN USING LOTS OF PARTICLES AND PELLETS WITH NOT TOOOOO MANY BOILIES. THIS ALSO A CHEAP WAY TO BAIT UP.

Mick_The_Fluke
06-06-2005, 19:30
i usally just use pellets and loads of particles to pre bait with then when i go to fish my baited spots i generally use single hookbaits or very small stringers it has never over killed my swims at all

joey_h
06-06-2005, 19:38
on the syndicate im baitng, i think there are afew others putting bait in, but on a small scale like me. there nice blokes, but right secret squirells and wont reveal what their catching on. just wondering if any other anglers, specially ones around my age (16) find they have the same problem. i seem to think that if the carp prefer the other anglers bait, the bait im putting in will be almost neglected by the carp

joey_h

Mick_The_Fluke
06-06-2005, 19:51
you could always try making your own bait aswell its not too expensive to get into mess with flavours and colurs untill you get the perfect bait . then your secret boys will be trying to see what you are using aswell and you will have the last laugh...

jonmiller
06-06-2005, 19:56
keep trickle it in m8,it wont be neglected,try to find the fish first,and as james states try yo catch them without blowing your chances by putting to much in whilst your fishing, esp if your like me and only fish short sessions,when you go home is the time to prime your areas,but have regard for other anglers fella,but dont worry keep at it and you will reap the rewards http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

kingfungus
06-06-2005, 20:00
I am 17 and used to (and still do from time to time) fish a water that was day only (unless u was a member) and they used to heavily bait the lake with 'their' boilies and most other people who were not on their bait either blanked or had very poor results (although i dont think it was entirely down to the bait http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif). In spite of this i just used quality bait (nashy's stuff) and found that if i put myself in the right area, i would catch - with very little prebait ie just a pound or two over likely looking areas when i had finished fishing. What i'm really trying to say is that it is more important that u make sure that u are on fish and as long as u fish sensibly you WILL catch. Hope this makes sense http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif.

joey_h
07-06-2005, 07:50
thanks for all the help, ill definately follow what you all say and lets hope i can wiinkle a few out!! keep the posts coming in if theres any more tips out there. and if anyone else has a few secret squirells on their local they have to deal with, it be good t find out ways you outfish them! lol

joey_h
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wayne_g
07-06-2005, 09:33
You need to get it clear in your mind why you are prebaiting and what you hope to achieve from it. They way i see it is there are two reasons to prebait.

1. You want the fish to feed in an area unpressured and without caution, maybe away from the 'going' spots that other anglers use. If this is the case then there is no need to spend tons of cash on expensive boilies, just get a sack of hemp and maize. Dont over do it!!!! Not because of the fish, but because of other anglers, if you make too big a clear patch then other anglers will find it!!

2. You want the fish to switch onto/eat without caution 'your' bait. If this is the case then using particles isnt gonna achieve much, and a little and often approach with the boilies you are using is better. Try to bait a few spots that you want to fish, but also if you can introduce some of your bait onto the going spots as well, this way you know that they are finding it.

Prebaiting isnt always about piling it in, I baited right through the winter but only used a kilo a week to hold the fish in one area. I just sprayed it around with a catty twice a week.

skank_boy
07-06-2005, 10:17
dont also foget about groats and sweetcorn.

just keep it nice and simple, i'm sure carp these days have seen plenty of big beds of baits over the past few years, little and often (every 2 / 3 days) would be a good approach as long as the areas have been cleared.

Doc_o
07-06-2005, 10:18
hi i am only 17 and when i bait up i use the pigeon conditioner stuff. I go and get a 20 or25 kg sack and cook up a bucket at a time. then you go to the lake and spod it out in my opinion i think you should bait anywhere as long as the area doe not get fished that much as if you bait regulaly the fish will more in on it. but dont just use one thing like pigeon con. use maze and hemp every so often so they dont get addicted to it. they for hook baits i have done in the past is use maze in a pva and on the hair with the pastic stuff to keep it balanced.
Or i made up some fishmeal boilies and added some conditioner to it
it made the bait smell like the conditioner and the fish loved it.
also if your on a tight pocket try csl pellets. hope that helps dave

skank_boy
07-06-2005, 10:22
also to keep the price down, make the boilies yourself.

i would image you could knock up a base mix for less than £2.00 per kilo, with your time and effort, eggs etc i doubt it will be more than £3.50 a kilo. you will save a fortune over time.

carpycris
08-06-2005, 22:34
allo mate. well ave to get back on jenkins when u finish ure exams. u can guest me this season on the syndicate if u wanna. hopefully itll be a lil better than last year. as ive already told u, bait up as you and the other guys have said regularly with the same stuff each week in a few good spots out the way. the far corner under the tree by the scarecrow is a good bet http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif trust me http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif if you wanna bulk your feed out do it with groats hemp and vitalin. go to marriages if you wanna bulk ure pellet swell coz its dirt cheap in there. cya soon mate. good luck down there. lemme know if that reported 30 is true

joey_h
09-06-2005, 17:54
just been talking to a few members down there n that 30 is a false claim http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif there still spawning but is should be over soon cos they have been at for about 2 weeks now. startin trickling my bait in too, bout 3 times a week . il give you a bell chris when i finish my exams n we can get down to jenkins to try our luck again lol http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif