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simonk
06-09-2001, 15:30
I've got to get this off my chest.

A mate and I recently fished Yateley South lake (Sunday night to Tuesday).

I had an excellent time and the fishing was great, but was overshadowed by one of the baliffs being a complete knob.

When I turned up on Sunday, the baliff (Baliff A) that was there was fine. He came round Monday morning had a chat, offered adivce and went off. A few more anglers turned up, then the second balif (Baliff B) came round at about 10.30 ish. Again he was ok, I'd seem him before. As he was leaving my swim he'd asked me if I'd been round to the loo in the past hour (which I hadn't, neither had my mate). I asked him why and he told me he'd left his mobile phone in there and when he went back to get it, it had gone.

I offered him my phone so he could try and ring it but he declined saying he'd already tried. Off he goes.

About 5 minutes later he (Baliff B) comes back with another Baliff (Baliff C - old bearded chap) who I'd not seen before. At the time I was having a feel around with the marker rod. They stood behind me without saying anything. I pulled the rod in and engaged in a bit of chat with Baliff B. Baliff C then jumps in and says "Never mind that, what have you done with his phone?"

He then started getting all heavy handed saying if Baliff B didn't get his phone didn't get returned he'd call the police and kick everyone off the lake. He then stared at me shook his head and walked off. He went round every one on the lake, I guess doing the same thing.

Baliff B then came back an hour later asking to look in my car (he checked everyones) but was really apologetic about it. I was quite happy with this style of approach and gladly let him search my car. I even offered to let him search my kit.

I've every sympathy with someone who has had something stolen, to be honest I was shocked that someone at the Yateley South lake might have done this, but there is ways to talk to people. Baliff C (the bearded one) in my opinion was out of order. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Still I ended the day with my P.B. of 23lb 12oz mirror. Lovely.

Cheers,
Si.

CarponlineEditor
07-09-2001, 09:24
Hiya Simon,

Well done on the new PB, nice result. If a bailiff causes you any aggro then please get their names (they should not object if they are sticking to the rules) then ring RMC's office and let them know because if a bailiff is behaving badly then it will be sorted by the powers above us.

Hope you have a better session, aggro wise, next time mate,

Andy

beast
08-09-2001, 21:32
i,m shocked.i have fished the south a few times now and have found the bailifs to be diamond geazers!


beast

Crispy
11-09-2001, 11:57
I'm shocked too, come on RMC, what r u going to do about this accusational style of baliffing, it appears to be more and more commonplace at Yateley these days.

simonk
13-09-2001, 09:00
As I said in my original post, I had an excellent time and the fishing was good.

I've never had an issue before down at Yateley and every other Baliff has been extremely helpful. Its all forgotten now anyway, far more important things in life to worry about. e.g How to get as much fishing as possible done and keep the missus sweet.

Cheers,
Simon.

Crispy
14-09-2001, 15:58
Nothing too serious, small problems encountered, I think it's just a general lack of understanding by some baliffs about the style of carp fishing.

DanTheMan
28-09-2001, 10:52
lewis- you are very lucky on the car park side- u and the other baliffs seem to have it sorted, and everyone can get on with their fishing and just enjoy.
not the same on the match side which was what crispy was referring to. i fished there full time this year from june, till august and in the end i had to pull off- i was not enjoying my fishing from being constantly spied on, slagged off , told i can and cant do this etc...
i have evidence to prove this-certain baliffs were saying things about me to other baliffs that hapend to be good mates of mine!!!! a lot of it was blatant lies and really got on my t***!
its a shame because u are right lewis, yateley is *heaven* to many of us, but is being spoilt by a minority. most of the baliffs do a brilliant, often unthanked job, but a few w***** spoil it for the likes of u mate!
best of luck this winter on the cp! rather u than me!! haha
dan

Cash
28-09-2001, 15:45
I totally agree with you there Dan, you know where i'm fishing and i'm getting the same problem.
80% are top, top geeza's who you are pleased to have stop by. The remainding 20% are complete idiots with no manners and are blatantly rude and troublesome. No need for it.
Laters
Cash
P.s They also NEED ediucating, the just don't know the rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cash
28-09-2001, 15:55
Will do this weekend Ian if they come round.
Don't get me wrong the majority are excellent, but there are a couple who just don't even deserve to be fishing the water let alone bailiffing it!!!
Speak to you Monday or over the weekend.
Have a good one
Cash

graydog
05-12-2001, 14:09
Dan come down 2 sunny burghfield u will never meet such helpfull, happy bailifs and anglers,and some very good carp.bring a cup and u might get a cuppa when im fishing u will anyway

Geddylee
18-08-2003, 12:39
Have to say that bailiffs on South lake are top notch.Being a relative newcomer to carp fishing have always appreciated any help or advice from anyone(not just baliffs)One bailiff in particular(don`t know his name,short dumpy fella) has put me on fish every session I have done there.He once walked the whole lake to give me back a bit that had fallen from my bedchair,well done mate.Only problem being the head bailiff(old fella,beard,flat cap)does seem to get a right dose of the little Hitlers.Nice guy by himself but does like to show off in front of other bailiffs,dishing out rude remarks to anglers normally by themselves.I have been on the recieving end a couple of times.Not very smart or clever.He is nothing but a grunt with a little empire and teeny little bit of power. South lake still fantastic http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Crafty_Carper
24-08-2003, 20:50
hello this is quite a maiin water i fsih now and have found the baifers pretty good as they go apart from 1 for few reasons main one being

me and my m8 have been moaned at for not being on our rods even tho we were like 5 metres away cooking

and on this the same bailif was fishing on the bailif swim bit, and came around to the car park swims to moan at 2 young lads for not being on theere rods which is fair enuff if they wearnt(didnt see if they were, and as he was in carp park his rod screams on in the bailif swim, lol grrr, so much for unatended rods, and fish got snagged up and the guy he was moanin at had to go round with him to get carp out snags in the boat,,

that annoyed me as the bailif was miles from his rod down the bank,,
was funny tho cus he was moanin at the yuoung lad and as he was the lad said ,,, excuise me m8 ur rod is going off in a well pollite way takin the [censored],,, hehe

mkj
26-08-2003, 16:13
Hi m8,
Fish Sandhurst. I have only been fishing Sandhurst for the past year and the Baliffs (the ones I have spoken to) on there are Excellent. Enought Said. http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
One day I'll get to proberly know them and their names.
WELL DONE SANDHURST BAILIFFS

Matt_C
27-08-2003, 09:15
Was that the older guy (if I recall with a beard) - the one who seems to be in charge (I know his name but probably not right to publish it).

If so he does seem to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder...

Cash
27-08-2003, 20:09
Matt,
Your talking about Ron.
Now Ron, in my opinion is a very, very good head bailiff. Firm but fair. He will help you out, but will not and does not tolerate and [censored]. And believe me he's had his fair share over the years. Ron has now got the South lake under complete control, there's hardly ever a problem.
He hasn't got a chip on his shoulder at all, although he may come across strict at times, he just runs a tight ship and keeps it in order as he should.
I've got a lot of time for Ron, get to know him and you'll find out that he's a top fella. As most have said all of the South lake bailiffs are good, friendly and helpful lads. Just remember that the South lake is a day-ticket fishery so in general they don't get time to get to know people that well and may only see someone once.
Cash

BandK
01-09-2003, 14:03
Fished there for the first time this weekend, must admit the bailiffs were top notch, a few conflicting views on which spots to fish but i guess you get that anywhere.

Very helpfull indeed and i caught a few so a right result, will be back in the near future http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Dan
03-09-2003, 16:57
baliffs on south can be ok, althoug one of them likes to take th [censored],, cant really remember him well, except he was about 40+ small bloke, he was fishing the SNAGS. my mate was in boss and i was on the point, me mate was about 10 yrds from his rod and this baliff starts going on one, told him to be no more than 6ft away from his rods ever! didnt want to get kicked off so he agreed politely as you do, he then decided to walk from the SNAGS swim to the baliffs hut (which is on the other side of the lake for those that dont know) asking us to keep an eye on his rods... tut tut.. hardly on is it! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif both his rods tight under snags. nearest person in the boss..

DeanOr
04-09-2003, 08:29
Fished there a couple of years ago.. Balliffs were ok but not brilliant can remember the fish being in front of me after two days of my three day stay and the action started to get better.. They noticed this and decided to cut my route off from the baliff swims by casting in the line that the fish were travelling therefore the action died down somewhat..

But that is angling i am afraid and I would have probably done the same

danny
04-09-2003, 10:20
i have to say i have always found the bailiff's at south to very helpfull especially the bloke that caught the big burghfield common (i think it is malcolm). he is a top bailiff always freindly and up for a brew and a chat.

Tannersboy
04-09-2003, 18:38
I agree, Malcolm and the dumpy fella... very helpfull, and with a sense of humour. Ron however, on the 5 or 6 visits i've made to the lake has always come across as a bit of a grumpy [censored]. Thats the way it goes I guess. Last time I was on there, two bailiffs in the Boss using a baitboat, despite there being more 12 anglers on at the time..... check the rules boys.......one for us, one for them etc etc

cheshirecarper
05-09-2003, 06:53
Wil lhave to agree with the comment about Malcolm, when we were down there for the weekend earlier the bloke was an absolute genius http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif and i made this known on a previous thread, http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif went out of his way to give us as much info and tips as he could http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

If only they were all like him, and he can catch a few as well !! hence the mahooooosive Common in the brochure http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Cheshire carp Man
"Keep the good work up chaps http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif "

craftycarper1
09-09-2003, 22:52
i would put alot of money on it that i know exactly who you meen by 'baliff b', last time i was at the south lake this one 'baliff' kept coming round to my swim with the "your younger than me so thierfor your a sh*t angler!" attitude. know problems with the other baliffs though - sound as a bell.
cheers