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allibee
03-12-2003, 21:15
Hi Peoples

I've been looking at the ESP Waterproof Jacket and wondered what peoples opinions of it were.

I like the fact that it has no waist cord, which is inclined to make you sweat, which obviously can turn cold during inactivity (nothing worse than a cold back) and the fact that the jacket on it's own is rather shorter than the two piece outfit jacket because I'm only small. Also the price tag of £59.99 seems quite reasonable.

Any experiences good or bad with this jacket?

Cheers

potty
03-12-2003, 21:18
pucker mate the best

Bream_Boy
03-12-2003, 21:36
Read the Shimano Tribal Clothing thread, some not too good reports on the 'Drenchwear' clothing. Also it didn't do too well in the Total Carp clothing test.

allibee
03-12-2003, 22:37
Thanks, yes, I did read the drenchwear 'drenched' comments http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Baitrunner
04-12-2003, 09:13
Total Carp Mag has a comprehensive test of about a dozen suits this month.

wayne_g
04-12-2003, 09:17
Ive had to give my Drenchwear a coat of the old water seal this year as it started leaking like a profile. That was after only 2 seasons. Sorted now though.

BreamKing
04-12-2003, 13:04
Mines good as new. Not warm but I use it all summer too and in winter wear a fleece jacket underneath it when it gets really cold.

Ginster
04-12-2003, 13:55
Had a drenchwear suit for two years and it has never leaked yet http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

allibee
04-12-2003, 14:12
Thanks for the input guys, but just to clarify, I'm not talking about the drenchwear range, I mean

THIS JACKET (http://www.fishingmagic.com/review/reviewproduct/mps/sp/328545336315364421292/v/1/RGN/3/RCN/28/RPN/1365)

Cheers

Ginster
04-12-2003, 14:24
Does the label in the collar not say Drenchwear. Maybe it is made from the same material ?

allibee
04-12-2003, 14:52
My apologies in that case ... I mean this JACKET (http://www.fishingmagic.com/review/reviewproduct/mps/sp/328545336315364421292/v/1/RGN/3/RCN/28/RPN/1365), not THIS (http://www.fishing-tackle-online.co.uk/z_Drennan_ESP_Drenchwear.html) jacket

http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ginster
04-12-2003, 14:56
That was the one you linked to originaly.

I was asking if anyone knew if it was the same material as the Drenchwear suit as it has a drenchwear label and there has been some negative comments about the drenchwear suits this week.

I think ESP may just be using Drenchwear as a name for all their waterproof suits now and not just one product - I could be wrong though.

allibee
04-12-2003, 15:00
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Exactly the same spec as the normal Drenchwear, but this ESP variant is slightly padded, giving a warmer garment for those silly people who stay out all night in the winter !.


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This is from the second jacket/supplier I linked to .... ho hum http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif

wayne_g
04-12-2003, 15:11
Dont get me wrong, I still think my Drenchwear suit is a well made bit of kit. Its just that after a couple of years its needed some waterproofing. Its always been fine in short bursts of rain, but I was out in heavy rain for several hours and it started to leak. Thompsons has sorted it like new now. I'd still recommend it and I'd buy another one tomorrow.

flynn
04-12-2003, 15:32
most performance waterproofs, i.e. breathable ones, were designed for hillwalking, mountaineering, other outdoor pursuits where the breathability requirement is essential to avoid becoming extremely sweaty through exercise and subsequently cold. fishing being a more sedentary pursuit, in the main, is less likely to work up a sweat, so personally as tight fisted make use of a cheap poncho and a silly wide brim hat.
fancy pants stuff based on a breathable membrane such as goretex jackets will eventually start to leak, maybe over years, as that membrane looses it's integrity. reproofing with a product such as water seal as wayne says will make the garment waterproof again but breathability will have been lost as the waterproofing mechanism is different.

wayne_g
04-12-2003, 15:38
Spot on Flynn, but like you I wasnt too bothered about it being breathable anyway. In the summer I would only wear it in showers then take it off when back in the bivvy. In winter its too cold to sweat anyway.

allibee
04-12-2003, 15:48
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In winter its too cold to sweat anyway

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Tell that to a skier, LOL, but I know what you mean

There are products on the market, specifically by Nikwax here in the UK, that are wash-in waterproofers to reproof your clothing during a washing machine cycle. Also ones for proofing non waterproof materials, and one for proofing leather or suede boots and shoes.

I design and make all our ski and snowboard wear out of materials I really like (not necessarily hi tech fabrics at all) and then seam seal and proof them and NEVER had any leakage at all. And if you have a jacket you really like that is non waterproof you can buy hydrophilic membrane material and make a 'between' layer in your jacket or whatever it is and it becomes totally waterproof and breathable .... most outdoor fabric suppliers do it such as pennineoutdoor and pointnorth.

Helps if you're handy with a sewing machine though http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

wayne_g
04-12-2003, 15:50
As a rough guess, how many people that post on here do you reckon are handy with a sewing machine??? :0

allibee
04-12-2003, 15:56
Zero ... but I bet they know someone who is http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

wayne_g
04-12-2003, 15:58
not in my house!!! lol

allibee
04-12-2003, 16:14
Oh dear ... well maybe someone should get a nice one for Christmas then http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

cheshirecarper
04-12-2003, 16:32
Roll up roll up

get ya cheap sewing machines (http://www.nextag.com/buyer/outpdir.jsp?doSearch=y&amp;node=2700400&amp;dosearch=y&amp;tem plate=HG&amp;search=cheap+sewing+machines)

Roll up roll up http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

apples
04-12-2003, 16:36
ive been known to knock up the odd storm side and unhooking mat in my time... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

gortex type materials will leak if they become dirty as well..

Bream_Boy
04-12-2003, 17:06
Ali, the Nikwax waterproofing stuff is spot on. I used it on my walking jacket while trekking in Mongolia, it kept out very heavy rain. This was on a jacket whish had sieve like properties about a week before I left the UK. It makes the water bounce off. You can also get one for fleeces, which will make them good pretty waterproof, and they wont take on water straight away, unlike normal fleeces.

allibee
04-12-2003, 17:24
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ive been known to knock up the odd storm side and unhooking mat in my time...

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Aha ... I knew my favourite pip collection wouldn't let me down http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

apples
04-12-2003, 17:43
its been known for me to do a bit of knitting as well.. http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

fancy a bright, multi coloured jumper 3 sizes to big, with odd length arms for christmas ali?

allibee
04-12-2003, 17:46
Yes please http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Like I always say, it's the thought that goes into it http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

hatter
04-12-2003, 21:32
Worn my suit all summer , carping , and barbleing with the wife . After some heavy rain falling on me at packing up time , I.E taking the stuff to the car/packing up bivvi etc , I was soaked . The lineing matiral was dripping . I liked this suit as its the rite colour , blending in when stalking , but I will only use it during summer/autum conditions , or to throw over when walking around the swim . With breatherble matirials needing to let the sweat / body moisture evaporate , the outside needs to be relitively dry , to alow the pores to facelitate this ( correct mr if im wrong ) , and if soaking wet , is no better than an ordenary 100% waterproof matirial . I have this explernation told to me about breaterble bivvi matirials / rain !!! . In future im wanting the dogs bits warm / dry , [censored] the breaterbiliaty !!! .
Hatter

MrMAC
05-12-2003, 08:21
Hatter

That is a veritable masterclass of spelling mate.... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

(sorry for taking the pee - but you have just made my day... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

jonmiller
05-12-2003, 08:58
http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gifali,take a look at the new free spirit waterproof jacket,just bought one and they are the business,the tackle box stock them http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif ,and i can vouch on them being waterproof as last wednesday it chucked it down and iwas as dry as a bone! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

allibee
05-12-2003, 10:03
Bit too rich for me I'm afraid Jon, besides which some people don't like girls in camo http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif

jonmiller
05-12-2003, 10:59
http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gifi do , Grrrrrrrrrrr http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

allibee
05-12-2003, 11:21
LOL ... I'll bear that in mind http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

RAFLEE
05-12-2003, 11:25
oh! and me.... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

hatter
05-12-2003, 19:53
MRMAC !!!!! ,
I was p*****g myself as well . In my defence , I was typing , and looking out for the boss at the same time . Not looking at the keys when you cant type is bad , but guessing at randome is impossible !!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
Hope your jacket leaks , http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif,
Hatter http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif