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Bovis
11-03-2003, 14:11
Dear All
I was wandering if one of the Sandhurst team could shed some light on swim boundaries on Sandhurst.
Only reason I ask is a member of the Hood had some slight problems with someone next to them at the weekend and I thought it may be useful to others seeing as its known to get a tad busy down there.

For those that fish Sandy this is the scenario:

Me fishing swim 1, catholik priest in swim 2. Swim 3 and car Park Swim both Free. In the morning, 3 people turn up, 2 in car park, 1 in no.3 swim. Catholik gets a run.... or so he thought.... off his RIGHT hand rod, from someone fishing 2 swims away to the left crossing his line/s....from the car park
Now this obviously wasn't ideal for starters, but then to be told by a bailiff he had to move his rods either out right, in front of the swim to the right (No.1)where I was! or within 15 yards of the bank.....
Firstly, the guy who crossed his lines was actually casting his bait to within 5 yards of MY marker from 4 swims away!!!!! and secondly already being there for 2 nights you would've thought they may have asked where we were fishing as aposed to just crosssing lines.
I have a feeling tho that the bailiff in question was kinda helping his own cause.... being as he was fishing to the left of these guys and obviously wanted them to stay clear from him....or so it seemed.
Not overly bothered about the situation myself, however if it had directly happened to moi, I may not have been able to bite my lip like young Catholik...
Just thought it may be interesting to stop this occuring in the future....

PS. Great fishery.... Just a bit of common sense from some anglers/bailiff would be good...!
Your comments appreciated.

G_RAAAA
11-03-2003, 14:32
agreed, lovely session with lovely fish and it was good of catholick to keep his head in the sittuation,me..... i would of burnt the geezas 25 man hutchy down ! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

G

Nerys
11-03-2003, 15:14
Ummm.... awkward really isn't it...

Technically, each swim with a number is a swim in its own right, and the person fishing it should have a right to fish the water in front of it.... as you know on most lakes that means that some swims do end up with overlapping boundaries, 13 and 14 get it too, as does anything in the corners..

down in the car park area on sandy is does get very tight, like I was saying to G, you can end up really boxed in going in swim 1 if people then fish the car park area... when I fished it I tended to go in 1 and dave went in 4, which normally meant 2 and 3 stayed empty...

Normally, those fishing the car park fish out to the left of the swim more if someone is down in the secret, but it quite often gets fished by a group or a couple of people, so less problem with the 'boundaries' so to speak.. as everyone discusses it amongst them, like it would have been if say G had been in 4 instead..

there are a few swims that could benefit from a 'margins' or maybe 'close range' only type idea, like they do up on K1, particularly one of swim 2 or swim 3 maybe, swim 29 and one of swims 21 or 22.. though this can get up peoples noses when the lake is otherwise empty...

There is no set rule though at present on water boundaries within a swim, other than hopefully common sense.. it doesn't always work though.. I have been contected to a fish that jumped twice whilst hooked about 70yrds off the Pipes (31), playing it in and some guy on the island proceeded to cast at it..... TWICE.... it was politely mentioned that the fish he thought was topping was, at the time, in my landing net, and that solved that problem...

Its hard for me to give a solid answer on the weekend though, not being there, but from what you have indicated, then I think maybe the water in that area could have been 're-parceled' in a more mutually beneficial way

Maybe when they parcel up the lake for the BCAC's in a month from now then we can look at the boundaries there and use those as a base if people need us too...

I think though that there are probably enough rules and regulations as it is down there, without having to produce semi-official 'boundary' to the swim's water, I think, as in most situations, that problems like this will have continue to be dealt with by the bailiff on site at the time, whose decision has to be respected as much by the rest of the bailiff team, as by the anglers in question, as catholik obviously did (Fair play mate!)

Other than that, I'm glad to hear you guys had a good time down there, the atmosphere is hopefully a lot better than it has been on your previous visits..

Takedown
11-03-2003, 22:10
A Westerly http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Takedown
11-03-2003, 23:04
How can anybody other than those there at the time of the misdemeanor comment? I had complaints from The Priests and then separately from the guys in 4 (the car park).

Now if I'd been asked to pass judgement, I must admit my initial decision would have been in favour of Catholik as he was in situ a full day (at least) before the others and as far as I saw was fishing sensible water.

But. . . and that's the big BUT . . . I wasn't there at the right time.

Anytime you get 24-25 anglers on Sandy there is bound to be some minor problems, the solution is to just deal with them sensibly and as best you can at the time.

Sorry if ANYBODY was upset but certainly the bailiffs did their very best and whoever the decision went against would moan - so we just can't win!!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif

G_RAAAA
12-03-2003, 09:07
bit harsh...dont particuly think it was a moan more of a gripe against belloskome's in the car park swims. believe i saw the whole lot, and it is a sad day when a marker about 35 yards STRAIGHT out in your swim is not acceptable eh ??

G
not having a dig..very chilled ok

Takedown
12-03-2003, 10:45
I never mentiioned a moan, I said a complaint, and possibly/probably a justified one, as I said though not being there at the exact moment makes it difficult to comment intelligently other than I have above http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Now get back in your pram G and I'll help you put your toys back http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bovis
12-03-2003, 11:31
Last weekend mate all I know is it was a 'kin strong one....

Cash
12-03-2003, 13:44
A south-westerly was blowing at the weekend including on Sandhurst! No argument needed here as the SW was blowing over the whole area all weekend!
I saw how the CP swims were occupied, NOT sensible what-so-ever a bit of common sense was definately required.
I felt for the Bove & Catholik priest, those other chaps should've had more courtesy! Hence why I didn't fish and blanked elsewhere!!
Cash

Bovis
12-03-2003, 13:52
This is what I couldn't understand Cash.... then us to be told to move rods..... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif ....unreal..

The most annoying thing was that they turned up whilst we were kipping.... their swim was within 3 yds of our swims and they couldn't even be bothered to walk round and ask where we were angling!

G_RAAAA
12-03-2003, 14:08
can we not end this, WE know the score, we know whats what and bollox to the others ! i had a real groovy session yet all were bangin on about was the 1 irratation, albeit a shocker.

Byeee bye
G