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carpyDAN
11-12-2002, 17:04
From the bit of research ive done i think there are 9 original mirrors..............6/7 commons and the fully scaled stocky 'pineapple' Can a member confirm this please

Hippy
11-12-2002, 17:16
http://www.that-aint-no-bream.co.uk.

The best website going, apart from this one of course! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

John_Boy
11-12-2002, 17:35
Whats the matter with that website????It won't let me get on the site!!!


Cheers John http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

flynn
11-12-2002, 17:36
gah theres errors afoot. am on the case.

flynn
11-12-2002, 17:37
nothing wrong just delete the full stop at the end of hipsters link. an easy mistaka to maka.

Lewis
12-12-2002, 09:29
Spot on!!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

mayby 7 - 9 commons......incl. the original and North lake commons

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apples
15-12-2002, 23:27
7 mirrors and 2 leathers... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Lewis
16-12-2002, 09:30
8 Mirrors and 1 Leather!!!!

Naughty Plums!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

apples
16-12-2002, 12:08
dusty....


just knew youd bite mate !!!!!!

carpyDAN
16-12-2002, 12:15
i swear heather and dustbin r both leathers

Lewis
16-12-2002, 12:18
Do we call Dusty - 'Dustbin the Leather carp'- Noooooooooo!!!! LOL

Dustbin has a plethora of scales......cant be many leathers in tyhe country covered in scales can there.......(sssssssh plums - LOL)!!!!

Theres only 1 leather in the carpark lake and her names HEATHER!!!! and i'm gonna get her...... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

KLewless

rhornegold
16-12-2002, 12:22
plethora---?
Does that mean ----Lots ?

Lewis
16-12-2002, 12:27
Might have spelt it wrong - but i believe it does there Bobby http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

On the Carp forum sir????? Whats up - -LOL http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

milky
16-12-2002, 12:29
the dustbin is not a true leather.................. http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

carpyDAN
16-12-2002, 12:30
to me it looks like a leather in all the pictures ive seen

milky
16-12-2002, 12:31
i would't mind having her in my net you can take the photo ..lew......... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Lewis
16-12-2002, 12:32
Cant help but bite...............

[shout] ITS A MIRROR CARP!!!!!

Its got scales.................. http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif

KLewless
Yateley Bore

carpyDAN
16-12-2002, 12:33
WHERE

Garth
16-12-2002, 12:33
Hasnt heather got a single scale? Maybe she has the wrong name too?

fishydave
16-12-2002, 12:35
i can't believe yo said that Garth!
World War 3's about to start!
Que Lew Lew lol lol

milky
16-12-2002, 12:40
trust you to say that ..big G.. http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Lewis
16-12-2002, 12:45
Where?????

I would luv you to show me when she's on the bank mate! in my arms......http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

milky
16-12-2002, 12:46
takeing my hook out for me mate ......thanks http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

fishydave
16-12-2002, 12:49
i must admit boys, i thought she had a scale!!

tcpcrewontour
16-12-2002, 13:39
THERES NOT MANY TRUE LEATHERS DUE TO A LETHAL GENE....

Garth
16-12-2002, 13:44
In carp there are two genes that control how scaley the fish is. The S gene controls scaliness and the N gene controls nakedness. These genes may be either dominant S and N or recessive s and n.
Commons have a dominant scaley gene and a recessive naked gene. If two commons breed together they may either produce 100% commons or 50% commons and 50% mirrors dependent upon the genetic make up of both parents, just because they are both commons it does not follow that they have the identical genetic make up.
Mirrors have tended to be selectively bred and breed true, that is SS genes, if two mirrors are bred they will tend to produce 100% mirrors.
Leathers and linears carry a dominant N gene and if bred with another fish with the same dominant gene you get a ratio of 4 non-developing eggs (lethal gene combination) to 6 linears to 3 commons to 2 leathers to 1 mirror.

singy
16-12-2002, 13:49
Pretty close Garth, not that simple though. A lake full of mirrors will produce common young and over a period of time the whole lake will revert to common carp. Look at redmire.

Mirror and morrors breeding do not always produce mirrors.

tcpcrewontour
16-12-2002, 13:49
clever dick....ive got that same book... you must have coppied it cos thats word to word...even got the same punctuation marks.....come on cash shoes you can do better....... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

rhornegold
16-12-2002, 17:38
Maybe, they should call this Leather " Gregor "

Lewis
17-12-2002, 09:55
Gregor?

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LOUGHNANE
17-12-2002, 11:23
McGregor's theory? http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
*scott*

Garth
17-12-2002, 11:52
LOL, Gregor the Leather